Posts Tagged ‘atheism’

Right. I suspect there will be some offensive language on this post, consider yourself warned.

Gay marriage is in the news. Apparently some MPs (mainly old, male and tory) are dead against the sort of shenanigans that some MPs (mainly old, male and tory) get up to becoming recognised in law. So they’re tabling amendments to try and wreck the passage of the bill to allow gay marriage.

“It’s wrong!” the exclaim, “unnatural”, “it will undermine the sanctity of marriage” and off course my favourite “against [deity of choice here]’s will”

So here’s my issue. What the flying fuck has it got to do with anyone else whether two consenting adults who love each other and want to make a commitment recognised in law to each other do?

What gives these self important twats the right to decide how others live? Don’t agree with gay marriage, fine, don’t fucking get one. I don’t agree with lots of things. Guess what? I don’t do them. I do not get to impose my values on everyone else. (Otherwise I could beat boy bands to death).

If you seek to impose your values on others you better have some damn good evidence. Not just a book of fairy tales, but evidence. It will not undermine marriage. I’m married (yes really!) and guess what will happen to our marriage the day following gay marriage being permitted? Nothing. Not a fucking thing. I will still be as happy and in love as ever, I suspect I will still get moaned at for not doing the washing up/hoovering/leaving pants on the floor. The only difference is that I may get an invite to more weddings.

If the whole idea makes you uneasy, uncomfortable or outraged. Guess whose problem that it? Yours and yours alone. Stop making it others. Stop making excuses for being a bigot. Live your life how you want and do others the same courtesy.

…and if your imaginary friend tells you it’s wrong then tell him/her/it to come see me and I’ll tell them to stop being a bigoted homophobic prick as well.

now to lighten the mood, here’s George Takei being far more eloquent, humourous and forgiving than I can manage.

Ah, the age old question of free speech, freedom of belief and so on.

Today I saw a post on a buddies timeline

Being an atheist is okay. Being an atheist and shaming religions and spirituality as silly and not real is not okay. Being a Christian is okay. Being homophobic, misogynistic, racist or an otherwise hateful person and blaming it on your religion is not okay. Being a reindeer is okay. Bullying and excluding another reindeer because he has a shiny red nose is not okay

To which I replied…

if they didn’t want to be described as silly and not real, then they need to stop pretending silly and unreal stuff isn’t. But like the sentiment of lets have a beer regardless!

I was quickly slapped back into place by one of his friends…

…Ah, so you’re talking about superstrings, particle/wave duality, quantum tunneling, time dilation, quantum superposition etc. Silly and unreal things that I don’t understand but am happy to accept as helpful ways of explaining things. I have the same approach to God, and hoped that more than 3 minutes would pass from *** posting the picture I like, to a comment that actually misses the point of the picture entirely.

Okay… not fair to barge in on a friends timeline and start an argument. But this is my blog so I’m free to vent here

First up the assumption that I was talking about those things. Wrong. I was talking about religious claptrap being peddled as true. As the t-shirt slogan say. I will convert for evidence. If you peddle or defend ridiculous ideas that are plain silly, then do not be surprised or offended when someone calls it such.

As for “superstrings, particle/wave duality, quantum tunneling, time dilation, quantum superposition etc. Silly and unreal things that I don’t understand”. The fact you do not understand fully something does not make it silly and unreal. It merely shows you do not understand something. The scientific theories you mention are just that. Theories. Conclusions based on the best knowledge to hand that will be improved upon as we gain in scientific, experimental and theoretical knowledge. It’s called progress, and as I’ve stated before I’ll take a conclusion over a belief every time.

As for equating an intolerance of religious nonsense with homophobia, misogyny and racism. You mistake my intolerance of pandering to religion with an intolerance of religion. You are perfectly free to believe what delusion you choose. You may even hold beliefs the rest of civilisation find objection such as homophobia, misogyny and racism. But you are not exempt from having those beliefs criticised or ridiculed, and if you wish to inflict your beliefs on others or act in accordance with you beliefs then be expected to be asked for evidence or to justify your behaviour.

I think the point I “missed” is that I am not supposed to have the temerity to criticise an idea if it is labelled a “belief”. Well you’ve shit out there mate… As for “shaming religions”? They can only be shamed if they have done something shameful. Why on earth would an organisation guilty of a shameful act be deserving of special protection?

Finally, of course being a reindeer is okay. Reindeer have learnt from Santa that bullying is wrong and are never nasty to other reindeer now. To suggest otherwise is just plain stupid.

On a more cheerful note, if you want to see reindeer in action you can track Santa’s progress here

Rage does not even come close right now.

Tragedy has struck in a school. Nearly 30 children and their teachers lay dead at the hands of a rabid whackjob. I will leave the gun control debate for another, calmer, less grief stricken day.

But in the midst of so much agony, whilst parents are either full of pain or holding their children tight. When every sane person struggles to comprehend what has happened, Bryan Fisher, a director at the disturbingly ironic American Family Association and who hosts on a radio station had this to say.

I will warn you now. Put down anything that can be thrown at the screen. Ensure young children are out of earshot of anything you may yell.

That’s right. He blames the families and society for God allowing their kids to die. Whilst people are still in hospital fighting for their lives he already bangs his hate filled drum.

I struggle for an adjective adequate to describe my utter contempt and loathing for this man. If a dog behaved in such a manner you would have it put down.

I support free speech in all it’s forms. But this tests me.

If this is his religion in action, I would happily burn his church, his altars and his bibles. This is a cancer amongst civilisation and it needs to be treated.

Like the man who pulled the trigger today he is simply broken. His mind so warped to be beyond repair, and on these rare and unfortunate occasions perhaps a simplest, most effective and in the longer term kindest solution is a bullet.

I have downloaded this vid, to be reposted on youtube when they inevitably take it down. The world needs to be reminded what these people say.

This time it’s the Mayans lack of foresight in extending their calendar that is causing consternation. It has been nearly two years since the last end of the world after all…

Russian government ministers have issued re-assuring messages, Bugarach in France has banned travellers to the UFO garage that could save the faithful.

Meanwhile in Oz, when they’re not calling up the NHS…

I am of course certain it is yet more religious ignorance writ large. The only end of the world we are witnessing is the gradual slide into a new dark ages as religion, extremism, ignorance and over population condemn the planet to a slow painful extinction.

So certain in fact, that if the sky pixie peddlars are right and it’s the second coming/end of calender/Ragnarök (delete as applicable) and I’m wrong and the world does in fact end I will buy every reader a pint at the winchester tavern

Last orders please…

Just so you know how long you have…

Apologies for lack of blogging recently, but a SQL server update meant loads of database and wordpress fun… Only hindered a little bit by the fact I know very little about SQL databases!

Anyway, I’m back! Normal service to be resumed. In the meantime something to make you smile, unless you’re a nutbag creationist type.. in which case this is more your level. Disturbing, but more your thing I’m guessing.

Political brouhaha of the day is Cleggs draft speech on gay marriage. Allegedly it was to contain the lines

Continued trouble in the economy gives the bigots a stick to beat us with, as they demand we “postpone” the equalities agenda in order to deal with “the things people really care about”. As if pursuing greater equality and fixing the economy simply cannot happen at once

According to the Beeb Former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey said the remarks were “very offensive” and continued

…If he persists in taking that view I and others would be very offended…To be called a bigot is a very offensive statement and I would ask him to recall it…because there are issues here that demand very serious debate

So an ex unelected head of a tax avoiding private members club that wishes to impose it’s views and culture on others objects to being called a bigot?

I think I’ve got news for him. Websters defines bigot as;

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

I think seeking to prevent an entire group of the population to call their social partnering marriage on the grounds of a collection of fairy tales which is by no means universally regarded and has no place in law qualifies as obstinate intolerance.

In which case he is a fucking bigot with bells on. He should feel free to be as offended as he likes, much as I am sure many in the gay community do at the pronouncements of the sanctimonious self appointed keeper of morals.

Now if only Clegg had the balls to see it through, he may just have won some respect for having convictions.

Here we go again!

The Church has written in vehement disgust and appaled anger at the Governments plan to allow gays to call their union marriage. If this heinous and outrageous crime is permitted they claim they will break with the state (and all those subsidies?) and threaten to stop conducting weddings on behalf of the state.

Despite the fact fact that the Governments proposed legislation granting all orientations the same partnership rights specifically will not force Clergy to conduct gay marriages they are up in arms that anyone else be allowed to do something they disapprove of. They go further in insisting they be allowed to retain their bigoted and discrimatory church rules because they fear it could be challenged in the European courts. Which is somewhat strange, as they appear to be a fan of these coursts when it suits them?

I’ll forgo reiterating all the usual arguments about religion, and ask this.

If they break with the state, refuse to carry out state work (ie; marriages) then what is the church but a social club with some funny rules and charitable status?

In order to keep charitable status, any charity must abide by the equality act which unlike the rules they call laws, is in fact a Law, that states;

…makes it unlawful to discriminate against anyone because of a protected characteristic in a wide range of areas including employment and the provision of services.

The following are protected characteristics:

age
disability
gender reassignment
marriage and civil partnership
pregnancy and maternity
race
religion or belief
sex
sexual orientation

Failure to comply with this should mean a charity loses it’s charitable status. Should be fun when they have to pay some tax on their income, property and investments. Maybe then they can contribute to helping the poor in society instead of sitting in churches and mansions and spout outdated prejudice against minorities.

Is it
a) the priest, an adult, educated, experienced and cosseted in an organisation with billions to spend on a secure environment, protected by states and secrecy.
or
b) a vulnerable child, often from broken or dysfunctional backgrounds lacking security, education, or experience.

Got it yet? Need some help? Well that’s ok the Bishop of Tenerife can help you there (I say help, I suspect in much the same way the church helped tens of thousands of vulnerable young people)

As he says…

His comments were that there are youngsters who want to be abused, and he compared that abuse to homosexuality, describing them both as prejudicial to society. He said that on occasions the abuse happened because the there are children who consent to it.

He goes onto to equate the widespread priest abuse at the hands of malicious young children with homosexuality

The Bishop claimed that both abuse of children and homosexuality would lead to future problems in society ‘as has occurred in other civilisations’.

That’s right. It’s not the innocent priests faults at all, it’s all down the gays and malicious minors corrupting society.

Where to begin?

To start with, this hateful bastard should be hounded until the day he dies in penniless obscurity. Then the assets of the church, secured by threats of eternal damnation and lies, bolstered by tax avoidance and political machinations should be forcibly removed and used for good, not hoarded to pay for golden churches, pensions and legal advice for paedophiles.

We should turn every religious building into a school or library. Tear down and sell their golden trinkets and spend it educating young people. It would be a start at putting right the damage this superstitious rubbish has wrought. Turn their legacy of threats, lies, secrecy and division at last into the force for good they always claimed to be.

hat tip to Old Holborns tweets for highlighting

Apparently it’s easier than you think!

All it takes now according to some muslim clerics is to practise yoga. Bowing before the sun is idolatrous and worthy of a Salman Rushdi style Fatwa.

Muslim leaders argue that the Islam does not give any person permission to bow before any picture or three-dimensional objects.

Good. Nobody asked. Backward bloody myth mongers.

Still want to tell me all faiths are valid and deserve respect?

…I find it hard to describe the renewed contempt I have for religion after reading this.

The next time someone tells you we must “respect” others beliefs and cultures no matter how ludicrous and unsubstantiated read this article again. This is where superstition and religion leads us, into ignorance and darkness.

Take your gods, your prophets, your holy books and your churches or towering architecture built in deference and fear of mythical beings and shove them up their collective arses. For every abused child, massacred village, crusade, jihad, voodoo, suicide bombing or even just an adopted child refused aid because they aren’t allowed to peddle their prejudices I would see every variety of backward hatefilled superstition consigned to the dustbin of history.

If 2012 can bring us anything, please let it bring us freedom from religion.

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